Pro Gauge wiring

[Cristiano]

I think there are some sort of incompatibility with some ProSpec gauges.

I have been investigating them, because mikeperry has a similar issue.

It would be useful to nake a list of the gauges that for some reasons don't work well.

I will contact you by email, so that I can replace your controller if you think the problem is there, but personally I think it is down to an incompatibility with  the gauge.

Regards
Cristiano

[twoacejr]

Cristiano,

Got the new board and everything works well. The needle moves less per increment in the software making it possible to be much more accurate at the percents in the calibration. S1 now works just like the other inputs.

All in all everything is great.

Thanks

[r0gu3]

Hi Guys, I don't mean to hijack your thread. if you need me to move this or delete, im cool . I've received my progauge board , thanks Cristiano 
I just wanted to add, the Proparts Fuel gauges works well, (I've got the one with 10 pins) followed the instruction from this thread and got it all working. went and test with trucks, nationwide and Mx5 ( since I use Fuel% and I divided the  max fuel for each car by 8 to see if when fuel is depleted by that figure, the pins should hit the mark between, Full and 3/4, or 3/4 and 1/2), it got really close by 1mm and sometimes spot on and im pretty happy with it.

Also the water temp is pretty much spot on. so now Im waiting for the proparts 5" tach to arrive.
Special Thanks to MikePerry for answering everyone's question on iracing forum  and this forum, re wiring and compatibility (keep them videos running mate- loving it) 
will post more once I can figure out how am I going to mount them in front of the wheel.
cheers,
Marcus

[Somethings]

Hello guys,

First of all, I'm french so I'm sorry if my english is not perfect !

I'm trying to use my Alfa 33 gauges... but something is going wrong with the speedometer. Photos of the clusters are attached to this message.

As you can see on the second photo, the signal has got a strange way to go to the speedo. There are several calculators (the number 2 on the second photo and the cards wired on the speedo). The odometer is mechanical and I want to keep it with the Pro Gauge.

The stuff is, when I wire the signal from the progauge to the cluster, my RPM is going crazy ! I have to put a very high number to the speedo in simdash to get the RPM stable, and in any way the speedo never moves. Sometimes I can get it at full speed, it's like an on/off button.

The idea I have is to put a kind of a regulator which will be weld directly on the 12v and GND of the speedo's motor. This regulator will receive the 12v and the GND from the Progauge and the Spd signal will regulate the voltage. Is it possible to make something like that ? If it is, what's the name of this regulator (link if possible !).

To be more clear, here the scheme of the idea :

ProGauge ==> 12v, GND, SPD ==> Regulator/variator ==> 12V, GND ==> Speedometer

I hope you can help me, and tell me if you need more details. I have the electronic scheme of the clusters if needed... but I don't think it'll helps you.

[Cristiano]

Hello Somethings.
it is possible the type of signal that the dashboard expects is not compatible with the type of signal generated by the Rev Burner or Pro-Gauge

Hello guys,

First of all, I'm french so I'm sorry if my english is not perfect !

I'm trying to use my Alfa 33 gauges... but something is going wrong with the speedometer. Photos of the clusters are attached to this message.

As you can see on the second photo, the signal has got a strange way to go to the speedo. There are several calculators (the number 2 on the second photo and the cards wired on the speedo). The odometer is mechanical and I want to keep it with the Pro Gauge.

The stuff is, when I wire the signal from the progauge to the cluster, my RPM is going crazy ! I have to put a very high number to the speedo in simdash to get the RPM stable, and in any way the speedo never moves. Sometimes I can get it at full speed, it's like an on/off button.

The idea I have is to put a kind of a regulator which will be weld directly on the 12v and GND of the speedo's motor. This regulator will receive the 12v and the GND from the Progauge and the Spd signal will regulate the voltage. Is it possible to make something like that ? If it is, what's the name of this regulator (link if possible !).

To be more clear, here the scheme of the idea :

ProGauge ==> 12v, GND, SPD ==> Regulator/variator ==> 12V, GND ==> Speedometer

I hope you can help me, and tell me if you need more details. I have the electronic scheme of the clusters if needed... but I don't think it'll helps you.

[Somethings]

Thanks for the answer !

When I see all the cards which are calculating the signal I'm not really estonished...

Do you think that my idea to put a variator to set the voltage of the speedo's motor can work ? You know like a potentiometer but automatic with SPD signal.

[Somethings]

Up to this thread with my gauges. I found a solution to keep my cluster with taking 2 rev motors : 1 for real revs, and 1 for speed. Seperately it works perfectly but when I connect everything on the Progauge, the speed is going crazy after 120km/h.
I suppose that my Progauge got a problem because it worked fine while testing but not when all the other gauges are set up on the card. An other thing the power supply is really really hot after 5mn ! I don't know if it's normal...

Please help me !!!

[Cristiano]

If the power supply gets hot, it could be becuase it is too small for the dashboard.

the power supply you have received is 1A.
I bet you need a bigger one. I would go for 3A.

I can help you to find one if you tell me where you live.

Regards
Cristiano

Up to this thread with my gauges. I found a solution to keep my cluster with taking 2 rev motors : 1 for real revs, and 1 for speed. Seperately it works perfectly but when I connect everything on the Progauge, the speed is going crazy after 120km/h.
I suppose that my Progauge got a problem because it worked fine while testing but not when all the other gauges are set up on the card. An other thing the power supply is really really hot after 5mn ! I don't know if it's normal...

Please help me !!!

[Somethings]

If the power supply gets hot, it could be becuase it is too small for the dashboard.

the power supply you have received is 1A.
I bet you need a bigger one. I would go for 3A.

I can help you to find one if you tell me where you live.

Regards
Cristiano

Thanks a lot for replying !

I tried again and each rev works alone but never together. If I link the second gauge, the first one goes crazy... An other detail, this problem is there even if I just activate the gauge in simdash without testing anything. Do you confirm the power supply problem ? I'm really wondering if the board is ok or not.

An other thing I noticed is when I try in a game the speedo (Race07 and Rfactor), if I reach the max speed of the gauge (240km/h) the needle stop working and go back to 0. It works again when I drive at 239km/h. Can you tell me what's going wrong ?

I hope you'll be able to answer all my questions.

About the bigger power supply, I live in France I'm ok if you can tell send me a link to the product.

[Cristiano]

Hello.
If the rev burners work correctly when  you use one at the time, I believe the problem is with the power supply.
I suppose you are using 2 power supplies, one for each board.

what I would try is using only one power supply, connected in the usual way to one of the rev burners.

Then connect the + terminal and - terminal of one rev burner to the + terminal and - terminal of the other rev burner. So that the second rev burner receives power too.

Please let me know if this works.

regarding the problem when you reach 240 km/h, can you just configure the speedometer to not reach that speed? when you configure the 100% slider for the speed in SimDash, make the needle stop at 239, so it never reaches 240 km/h

I know it is not ideal but it could bet an easy fix if it works.

regards
Cristiano

[Somethings]

I think that my explanations are not totally clear because I'm using the Pro Gauge, not any rev burner !

I made a video to show you what's going on with the board. Each gauge tested are totally indepedent. I tried to describe everything in the description of the video + IN the video with subtitles.
You'll see that there is a problem between RPM and SPD settings but I don't understand why.
If you have any question or if you need any photo tell me and I'll give the maximum detail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOPp99PkHqQ&feature=youtu.be

[Wombatman]

I have purchased a symprojects Progauge to upgrade my Revburner and I have a problem with my Water temp gauge.

I purchased the following 2 Spek fuel gauge and water - to match my 5inch Spek ProTach.

Fuel
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Spek-2-1-16-Fuel-level-gauge-White-Black-Silver-/151087333868?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item232d81c1ec&vxp=mtr

Water
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Spek-Pro-2-1-16-Water-Temp-Gauge-White-Black-Silver-/151086961642?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item232d7c13ea

I have them all wired up and in iracing the Fuel and tach are working great but the water temp is not correct at all.

In the symprojects software I have it calibrated to min 100F and max 300F and all the percentages line up, however in game is lags behind the game temps and eventually catches up but it is not real time like the others.

What am I missing?

Brad

[Cristiano]

Hi.
Just a question, when you calibrate the gauge in SImDash, and you press the 0%, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% test buttons in the configuration screen, does the needle move to the right positions?

thank you

I have purchased a symprojects Progauge to upgrade my Revburner and I have a problem with my Water temp gauge.

I purchased the following 2 Spek fuel gauge and water - to match my 5inch Spek ProTach.

Fuel
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Spek-2-1-16-Fuel-level-gauge-White-Black-Silver-/151087333868?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item232d81c1ec&vxp=mtr

Water
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Spek-Pro-2-1-16-Water-Temp-Gauge-White-Black-Silver-/151086961642?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item232d7c13ea

I have them all wired up and in iracing the Fuel and tach are working great but the water temp is not correct at all.

In the symprojects software I have it calibrated to min 100F and max 300F and all the percentages line up, however in game is lags behind the game temps and eventually catches up but it is not real time like the others.

What am I missing?

Brad

[Wombatman]

Yes it does Cristiano

[Wombatman]

So tonight I did a bunch of testing.

• Tried the temp gauge in a different port on the Pro Gauge - same result
  removed all gauge except the temp gauge - same result
  tried a different USB port same result
  I then in simdash viewed the data as iracing ran and the water temp rose but the gauge did not.
  

It must be a faulty gauge I think.